Once a Rubout Guy always a Rubout Guy. John Smith finishing his Slingerland noserider in preperation for an extended stay at a certain Baja pointbreak. I've known John for over forty years he started Ocean Pacific surfboards in the sixties went on to start Destination surf and now owns Baja Winters taking snowbirds on RV tours of the Baja Peninsula. John and I have more in common than being old fart surfers who still froth over a new board. One of his daughters is married to my son and we share grandpa duty with a couple of wild Groms. Once a Rubout Guy always a Rubout Guy.